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    #300161   2008-05-19 10:56 GMT      
    Houses she has sold go through the motions i;e more money.
    I have had to put my foot down as she thinks £150 per month is too much for her to pay (rent) all incl!
    She says she will only pay me £100, so I said, then you find somwhere else to live, she said fine I will. As you can see I feel bad, but at the same time a bit used by her, as looking at her Bank Statement she has been spending £90 on Top-Up's for her phone as well as Hair and makeup and clothes...Am I being too hard????
    If my daughter goes anywhere else she will have to pay alot more.

    Also if I take money of her then she will realise what the real world is all about instead of thinking everything is free!!!

    I open her Statements as she falls behind on her car payments and I am Guarantor!!!
    Yes I do want my daughter living with me!

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    #300162   2008-05-19 11:01 GMT      
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    #300163   2008-05-19 11:02 GMT      
    I'm not sure what that means in american money but we used to have to pay $50 a week($200) a month for room and board at home, I don't think your being hard at all. You got to show/learn responsibility somehow.

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    #300164   2008-05-19 11:03 GMT      
    Well that depends on your circumstances. If you need the money to put towards her share of food and bills then £150 is very cheap (after all she wouldn't be able to get a house share for less than £300pm). However, 20 is still pretty young and she has the rest of her life to worry about reality. I doubt I'll ask my daughters for any rent unless I was really desperate. I'd rather they put some into savings.

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    #300165   2008-05-19 11:04 GMT      
    No you're not. Stick to your guns - she's 20yrs, not 20 months!

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    #300166   2008-05-19 11:06 GMT      
    £150 a month is cheap... But then again she's your daughter...

    You bring her into this world off of your own back, she didn't ask for it.. and then you just throw her out when she hits a rough patch?

    It's like putting a hyperactive cat in a room full of fragile pottery on purpose and then saying it's the cats fault when something gets broken.

    Whether she is 20 weeks or 20 years - you still gave birth to her. She will be your responsibility for the rest of your life. Giving her life was a great gift - but remember, she didn't ask to be brought into this harsh world, where living is hard...

    Tell her to stop spending all that money on stuff she doesn't need though! That's totally wrong on her part.

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    #300167   2008-05-19 11:10 GMT      
    she will soon agree when she realises that renting somewhere will be more expensive. She should realise that anyway being an estate agent. Also if she finds out you've been through her statements I don't think it will help the situation.

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    #300168   2008-05-19 11:26 GMT      
    The key here is that she is family and not some stranger off the street asking to rent a room. You want to be treated fairly and you want to treat her fairly.

    I would suggest that you calculate the actual cost you incur with her there versus without her there and itemize those costs on paper to show your daughter.

    Use the actual cost to you rather than what she would have to pay elsewhere. This takes into account the "family helps family" factor. By showing her the numbers. she ought to be willing at least match it.

    This, of course, assumes you actually want her to live there. If for any reason, you do not want her there, just tell her. Don't create an excuse.

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    #300169   2008-05-19 11:41 GMT      
    You need to cut the cord. It is time and the cord is strangling her. She is obviously not going to grown up if you keep babying her. She is old enough to work and choose how to spend her income, but she also needs to learn to live with the consequences of her choices. A little suffering for her own actions will not hurt her a bit, but teach to make better choices.

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    #300170   2008-05-19 13:21 GMT      
    No, you're not being hard at all. Give her an ultimatum: she pays the £150 that you're asking for or she's out. Clearly you wouldn't really put her out on the street, but make it sound like you mean it.

    My mum went through the same thing with my brother and sister, where they got into an argument about how much rent they should pay so they ended up moving out. A couple of months later, they realised that there was no way they could possibly support themselves on the same amount as what my mum had been asking for in rent, so they moved back in, paid the rent, end of story.

    You have to stick to your guns because otherwise she will learn no responsibility at all. It sounds to me that she has a problem budgeting, since you have said that she is also falling behind on car payments. So make her learn to budget.

    One thing that would certainly help with budgeting is getting a mobile phone contract. It usually works out much cheaper than pay-as-you-go, and if you don't exceed your allowance you'll know exactly how much you have to pay each month. £90 is a ridiculous amount for phone usage - if she's not making overseas calls, then she should be able to get a contract for £50ish per month which would cover loads of minutes and texts.

    I do think that she's chosen her career, and if that career happens to pay a low wage then she needs to learn to live with that. If she's not happy, then look for a job that pays more or consider going to college or university in order to get a better paying career.

    Oh and give her a reality check: explain to her how easy she has it by telling her that my rent is £700 per month (just for a room!) - inclusive of bills but exclusive of food etc. That's in London though.

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    #300171   2008-05-19 16:58 GMT      
    I think she is on a winner. I take £200 from my daughter, and all my friends take more. I am newly divorced and have just moved into our first home, so I need every penny. She has car loan, and other monthly outgoings.
    My mum took 50% of my wage when I was at home, it was hard and I was angry, it was not until I moved out, that I realised how cheap it was.
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